True that was the case with my father in law (an exjw whom we shunned for smoking) who was in a drunken stupor and blew his brains out.
One of the two people I feel "Blood guilty" for.
i called a jehovah's witness friend of mine a couple weeks ago, yes i still consider him a friend though he would not say the same of me.
i've known him for almost 40 years.
our families went on many vacations together including my only trip back to bethel in 1996. this trip was made with 40 other "brothers and sisters.
True that was the case with my father in law (an exjw whom we shunned for smoking) who was in a drunken stupor and blew his brains out.
One of the two people I feel "Blood guilty" for.
i called a jehovah's witness friend of mine a couple weeks ago, yes i still consider him a friend though he would not say the same of me.
i've known him for almost 40 years.
our families went on many vacations together including my only trip back to bethel in 1996. this trip was made with 40 other "brothers and sisters.
I called a Jehovah's Witness friend of mine a couple weeks ago, yes I still consider him a friend though he would not say the same of me. I've known him for almost 40 years. Our families went on many vacations together including my only trip back to Bethel in 1996. This trip was made with 40 other "brothers and sisters."
We texted back and forth for about a half an hour late one Saturday night. I could tell something was wrong so I finally picked the phone and called him.
He had been drinking and told me how much he loved me and that "he had never given up hope for me to come back." He finally said. "Your probably calling me because you heard that I had been dis-fellow-shipped a week ago!"
"No!" I said. "I had no idea!"
Yes,his wife had turned him in for drunkenness and had left him. I tried to console him but he would not have it. Though he loved me, he could think of me only as the devil's disciple trying to steal what was left of his soul!
He was in the only real Hell there is. The Hell the Jehovah's Witness world had created for him. The Hell of being cast out of god's loving organization. Though "out" he was more "in" than ever. To lose everything he had was more than he could bare!
Hell for sure. Who know how many suicides have resulted from people living in this kind of made up Hell?
PS In the 50 years I was a JW he is the first and only person I have ever heard of getting dis-fellow-shipped for drinking too much. Because we all know here that is one area they cut people a lot of slack!
hi guys.
i was an active member of this forum many years ago and it played an integral part of my awakening and making peace with my decision to leave.
it’s been a while since i posted here.
Because of the Nazis style religion we were in, I love the line in the movie The Good German.
"You can never really leave Berlin!"
Sadly for most of us here whether you leave the organization or not (because of our friends and family) it is a life sentence.
i grew up with steve pare who is now an elder in southern california.
he sent me this note after i talked to him on the phone and sent him my book.. "the super-abundant blessings i have received in the advancing the earthly organization of jehovah have been fantastic !!!".
"jehovah is not behind in creating the paradise & his mighty of 9,000,000 will work with 20-50 billion to be resurrected & in 1,000 years the paradise will be done on time!!
I grew up with Steve Pare who is now an elder in southern California. He sent me this note after I talked to him on the phone and sent him my book.
"The super-abundant blessings I have received in the ADVANCING the earthly organization of Jehovah have been FANTASTIC !!!"
"Jehovah is not behind in creating the PARADISE & his mighty of 9,000,000 will work with 20-50 billion to be resurrected & in 1,000 years the paradise will be done on time!! With JW. ORG now publishing Bible info. in over 1,000 languages and with nearly 2 billion hours each year-----preaching these are the most exciting times to be one of JEHOVAH WITNESSES!!"
"FYI---I not only did not read your book I TORE IT UP!!!"
I guess all I have to say to that is Sieg Heil!
that's the one thing they all have in common.
because as soon as you are aware that you are in one, you would of course leave it,.
so millions of people all over the world are in them and but of course are ignorant of this fact.. i was asked many times over the years in field service, the question.
Yes I agree it was Rutherford who had no problem turning it into a cult. Knorr jumped on the band wagon until the they (not he) dreamed up the governing body idea.
that's the one thing they all have in common.
because as soon as you are aware that you are in one, you would of course leave it,.
so millions of people all over the world are in them and but of course are ignorant of this fact.. i was asked many times over the years in field service, the question.
That's the one thing they all have in common. Because as soon as you are aware that you are in one, you would of course leave it,
So millions of people all over the world are in them and but of course are ignorant of this fact.
I was asked many times over the years in field service, the question. "So you are in a cult?" "Of course not!" I replied.
Like the millions of other Jehovah's Witnesses that never did any thorough research into their organization, I gave the wrong answer.
Because after all who really wants to be in a cult? Nobody including the millions of people who are in them!
i'm starting to get my first hate mail because of my book.
two people sent the book back to me (unread of course) with notes about jehovah's vengeance.
one person tore it up and sent me a note.. however, i know of two born in jws that read it.
Yes it is. I thought it was only right that my ex-friends and family members found out first hand what I had to say. This way they didn't get the information from hear say or other means.
"Unsolicited books" Steve isn't what the Jehovah's Witnesses have been doing for a hundred and fifty years! Going door to door peddling their "unsolicited books." I get it now, they are they only ones that are allowed to do this I guess. So they have sold millions of these books this way and I have passed out thirty.
Steve, I not living by "their rules" anymore are you?
i'm starting to get my first hate mail because of my book.
two people sent the book back to me (unread of course) with notes about jehovah's vengeance.
one person tore it up and sent me a note.. however, i know of two born in jws that read it.
No I sent out about 15 books to JWs (ex-friends and family including my ex-wife) and then called some of them up after they got the books.
i'm starting to get my first hate mail because of my book.
two people sent the book back to me (unread of course) with notes about jehovah's vengeance.
one person tore it up and sent me a note.. however, i know of two born in jws that read it.
Thank you all.
All of the above comments are true. I did like JW Answers the best however. I'm of not surprised. If some one had sent this book to me at 19 years old I too would have destroyed it. Of course the information will trigger all kinds of emotions.
My target audience is non JWs and PIMOs and POMIs. As for the Nazis JWs I can only hope to plant a seed.
NB